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	<itunes:summary>&quot;The Deepest Health podcast seeks to answer one question - how can we live deeply into the power of Chinese medicine while living and thriving in the contemporary world? Through a mix of reflection, teaching, interviews with luminaries in the profession, conversations with and between practitioners and students, this podcast engages, inspires and informs. Created by Eric Grey, MSOM, LAc in Portland, OR and part of what&#039;s available at Deepesthealth.com (http://deepesthealth.com). Join us!&quot;</itunes:summary>
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		<title>Deepest Health Podcast 17 &#8211; Z&#8217;ev Rosenberg &#8211; Chinese medicine as a profession, past, present, future</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jan 2012 03:25:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I was excited to welcome Z&#8217;ev Rosenberg onto the podcast recently.  Z&#8217;ev is a practitioner with over 30 years of experience in practice.  He teaches and nurtures the Chinese herbal program at Pacific College of Oriental Medicine in San Diego, as well as working with K&#8217;an Herb Company &#38; writing...
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><img class="size-medium wp-image-4151 alignright" title="chinese medicine z'ev rosenberg podcast" src="http://deepesthealth.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/chinese-medicine-zev-rosenberg-podcast-300x225.jpg" alt="" width="300" height="225" />I was excited to welcome Z&#8217;ev Rosenberg onto the podcast recently.  Z&#8217;ev is a practitioner with over 30 years of experience in practice.  He teaches and nurtures the Chinese herbal program at <a href="http://www.pacificcollege.edu/acupuncture-massage-college-campuses/san-diego/san-diego-faculty/107-san-diego-faculty/139-zev-rosenberg-lac-msom.html">Pacific College of Oriental Medicine in San Diego</a>, as well as working with<a href="http://www.kanherb.com/cons_pi_a_rosenberg_bio.asp"> K&#8217;an Herb Company</a> &amp; writing on his <a href="http://www.alembicherbals.com/blog/">own blog</a>.  Visit those links to learn more about him.  You should do so, because what I&#8217;ve said barely scratches the surface of what Z&#8217;ev offers the Chinese medicine profession.</p>
<p>In this podcast, we mainly discussed the state &amp; nature of the Chinese medicine profession.  Z&#8217;ev helps us understand the early history of the profession in the states, how things have changed, what troubling and promising streams he sees coming together now.  We cover topics like the community acupuncture model, how we should do integrative medicine, how to study Chinese medicine and more.</p>
<p>Do yourself a favor and listen to this without delay.</p>
<p>Some of the texts that Z&#8217;ev mentions (aff link)</p>
<ol>
<li><a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0912111577/ref=as_li_ss_tl?ie=UTF8&amp;tag=deepesthealth-20&amp;linkCode=as2&amp;camp=1789&amp;creative=390957&amp;creativeASIN=0912111577">Shang han lun</a><img style="border: none !important; margin: 0px !important;" src="http://www.assoc-amazon.com/e/ir?t=deepesthealth-20&amp;l=as2&amp;o=1&amp;a=0912111577" alt="" width="1" height="1" border="0" /> (Treatise on Cold Damage, Zhang Zhongjing)</li>
<li><a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0979955254/ref=as_li_ss_tl?ie=UTF8&amp;tag=deepesthealth-20&amp;linkCode=as2&amp;camp=1789&amp;creative=390957&amp;creativeASIN=0979955254">Jin gui yao lue</a> (Pearls from the Golden Cabinet, Zhang Zhongjing)<img style="border: none !important; margin: 0px !important;" src="http://www.assoc-amazon.com/e/ir?t=deepesthealth-20&amp;l=as2&amp;o=1&amp;a=0979955254" alt="" width="1" height="1" border="0" /></li>
<li><a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0520053729/ref=as_li_ss_tl?ie=UTF8&amp;tag=deepesthealth-20&amp;linkCode=as2&amp;camp=1789&amp;creative=390957&amp;creativeASIN=0520053729">Nan jing</a> (Classic of difficulties)</li>
<li><a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0520266986/ref=as_li_ss_tl?ie=UTF8&amp;tag=deepesthealth-20&amp;linkCode=as2&amp;camp=1789&amp;creative=390957&amp;creativeASIN=0520266986">Huang di nei jing su wen</a> (Yellow Emperor&#8217;s simple questions)<img style="border: none !important; margin: 0px !important;" src="http://www.assoc-amazon.com/e/ir?t=deepesthealth-20&amp;l=as2&amp;o=1&amp;a=0520266986" alt="" width="1" height="1" border="0" /></li>
<li><a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0824826310/ref=as_li_ss_tl?ie=UTF8&amp;tag=deepesthealth-20&amp;linkCode=as2&amp;camp=1789&amp;creative=390957&amp;creativeASIN=0824826310">Huang di nei jing ling shu</a> (Yellow Emperor&#8217;s divine pivot)<img style="border: none !important; margin: 0px !important;" src="http://www.assoc-amazon.com/e/ir?t=deepesthealth-20&amp;l=as2&amp;o=1&amp;a=0824826310" alt="" width="1" height="1" border="0" /></li>
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<p>He also references the <a href="http://www.pacificsymposium.org/index.html">Pacific Symposium, a West coast conference focused on Chinese medicine</a> that comes up every year in the fall, coming again during the second week of November in 2012.</p>
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			<itunes:keywords>chinese herbs,Chinese medicine,community acupuncture,Podcast,z&#039;ev rosenberg</itunes:keywords>
		<itunes:subtitle>I was excited to welcome Z&#039;ev Rosenberg onto the podcast recently.  Z&#039;ev is a practitioner with over 30 years of experience in practice.  He teaches and nurtures the Chinese herbal program at Pacific College of Oriental Medicine in San Diego,</itunes:subtitle>
		<itunes:summary>I was excited to welcome Z&#039;ev Rosenberg onto the podcast recently.  Z&#039;ev is a practitioner with over 30 years of experience in practice.  He teaches and nurtures the Chinese herbal program at Pacific College of Oriental Medicine in San Diego, as well as working with K&#039;an Herb Company &amp; writing on his own blog.  Visit those links to learn more about him.  You should do so, because what I&#039;ve said barely scratches the surface of what Z&#039;ev offers the Chinese medicine profession.

In this podcast, we mainly discussed the state &amp; nature of the Chinese medicine profession.  Z&#039;ev helps us understand the early history of the profession in the states, how things have changed, what troubling and promising streams he sees coming together now.  We cover topics like the community acupuncture model, how we should do integrative medicine, how to study Chinese medicine and more.

Do yourself a favor and listen to this without delay.

Some of the texts that Z&#039;ev mentions (aff link)

	Shang han lun (Treatise on Cold Damage, Zhang Zhongjing)
	Jin gui yao lue (Pearls from the Golden Cabinet, Zhang Zhongjing)
	Nan jing (Classic of difficulties)
	Huang di nei jing su wen (Yellow Emperor&#039;s simple questions)
	Huang di nei jing ling shu (Yellow Emperor&#039;s divine pivot)

He also references the Pacific Symposium, a West coast conference focused on Chinese medicine that comes up every year in the fall, coming again during the second week of November in 2012.
If you like the Deepest Health podcast, and hope I will do more, would you do me a favor and rate this in the iTunes store?  Just click this link, then click on &quot;open this podcast in iTunes) and near the bottom of the page you will see the place to add your rating.  Thank you!</itunes:summary>
		<itunes:author>Eric Grey, LAc</itunes:author>
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		<itunes:duration>52:45</itunes:duration>
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		<title>Deepest Health Podcast 15 &#8211; Does where Chinese herbs are grown really matter?</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Oct 2011 03:20:10 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Eric Grey</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Another aspect to the more advanced Chinese herb learning method that I teach is diving into the huge amount of information concerning where herbs grow up.  Using the metaphor of the growth and development of a human being, it is undeniable that where we grow up influences the people we end up...
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://deepesthealth.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/07/chinese-medicine-podcast.jpg"><br />
</a><a href="http://deepesthealth.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/chinese-herb-ecology.jpg"><img class="size-medium wp-image-3191 alignright" style="border-width: 1px; border-color: black; border-style: solid; margin: 3px;" title="chinese herb ecology" src="http://deepesthealth.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/chinese-herb-ecology-174x300.jpg" alt="" width="139" height="240" /></a>Another aspect to the more advanced <a title="Shennong’s Relational Herb Learning Method : Stage 1" href="http://deepesthealth.com/store/shennongs-relational-herb-learning-method-stage-1/">Chinese herb learning method </a>that I teach is diving into the huge amount of information concerning where herbs grow up.  Using the metaphor of the growth and development of a human being, it is undeniable that where we grow up influences the people we end up becoming.  The same is true of Chinese herbs!</p>
<h6>Topics covered</h6>
<p>1. Why I love the herb method I teach</p>
<p>2. Why location matters when it comes to Chinese herbs</p>
<p>3.  Small application of the herb learning method with one of your friends and mine, Chenpi &#8211; aurantium &#8211; citrus peel</p>

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		<itunes:summary>Another aspect to the more advanced Chinese herb learning method that I teach is diving into the huge amount of information concerning where herbs grow up.  Using the metaphor of the growth and development of a human being, it is undeniable that where we grow up influences the people we end up becoming.  The same is true of Chinese herbs!
Topics covered
1. Why I love the herb method I teach

2. Why location matters when it comes to Chinese herbs

3.  Small application of the herb learning method with one of your friends and mine, Chenpi - aurantium - citrus peel



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		<title>Deepest Health Podcast 14 -Interview with Dr. Arnaud Versluys (Part 3 of 3)</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Oct 2011 03:18:44 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Eric Grey</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Topics covered 1. What to do when you cannot secure the herbs you need (for instance, Mahuang and Xixin) 2. What about growing our own herbs locally and using them in Chinese herbal formulas? If you are interested, please check out parts I and II of this interview. Back to...
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<h6>Topics covered</h6>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">1. What to do when you cannot secure the herbs you need (for instance, Mahuang and Xixin)</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">2. What about growing our own herbs locally and using them in Chinese herbal formulas?</p>
<h4><a href="http://deepesthealth.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/arnaud3.gif"><img class="size-thumbnail wp-image-3189 alignleft" style="border-width: 1px; border-color: black; border-style: solid; margin: 3px;" title="arnaud3" src="http://deepesthealth.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/arnaud3-140x150.gif" alt="" width="140" height="150" /></a></h4>
<p>If you are interested, please check out parts <a title="Deepest Health Podcast 11 – Interview with Dr. Arnaud Versluys  (Part 1 of 3)" href="http://deepesthealth.com/podcast/deepest-health-podcast-11-interview-with-dr-arnaud-versluys-part-1-of-3/">I</a> and <a title="Deepest Health Podcast 12 – Interview with Dr. Arnaud Versluys (Part 2 of 3)" href="http://deepesthealth.com/podcast/deepest-health-podcast-12-interview-with-dr-arnaud-versluys-part-2-of-3/">II </a>of this interview.</p>

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1. What to do when you cannot secure the herbs you need (for instance, Mahuang and Xixin)
2. What about growing our own herbs locally and using them in Chinese herbal formulas?


If you are interested, please check out parts I and II of this interview.



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		<itunes:duration>11:45</itunes:duration>
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		<title>Deepest Health Podcast 13 &#8211; Interview with Mark Silver</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Oct 2011 03:17:13 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Eric Grey</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[When I contacted Mark Silver, founder of the Heart of Business and Portland local, I was hoping to entice him to come and speak to students at NCNM.  I succeeded in that, with the additional bonus that he was kind enough to offer to do a podcast interview with me for Deepest...
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<p>When I contacted <a href="http://heartofbusiness.com">Mark Silver</a>, founder of the Heart of Business and Portland local, I was hoping to entice him to come and speak to students at<a href="http://ncnm.edu"> NCNM</a>.  I succeeded in that, with the additional bonus that he was kind enough to offer to do a podcast interview with me for Deepest Health! After a few fits and starts, we managed to make our schedules line up nicely and we sat down for a chat on an early spring morning.</p>
<h6>Topics covered</h6>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">1.  Should healthcare practitioners worry about the recession?</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">2.  How you can get more patients without constantly explaining what we do</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">3.  What Chinese medicine practitioners should watch out for when starting their own businesses</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">4.  Technology &amp; business : are they antithetical to holistic medicine?</p>

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		<itunes:subtitle>When I contacted Mark Silver, founder of the Heart of Business and Portland local, I was hoping to entice him to come and speak to students at NCNM.  I succeeded in that, with the additional bonus that he was kind enough to offer to do a podcast interv...</itunes:subtitle>
		<itunes:summary>When I contacted Mark Silver, founder of the Heart of Business and Portland local, I was hoping to entice him to come and speak to students at NCNM.  I succeeded in that, with the additional bonus that he was kind enough to offer to do a podcast interview with me for Deepest Health! After a few fits and starts, we managed to make our schedules line up nicely and we sat down for a chat on an early spring morning.
Topics covered
1.  Should healthcare practitioners worry about the recession?
2.  How you can get more patients without constantly explaining what we do
3.  What Chinese medicine practitioners should watch out for when starting their own businesses
4.  Technology &amp; business : are they antithetical to holistic medicine?


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		<itunes:author>Eric Grey, LAc</itunes:author>
		<itunes:explicit>clean</itunes:explicit>
		<itunes:duration>45:08</itunes:duration>
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		<title>Deepest Health Podcast 12 &#8211; Interview with Dr. Arnaud Versluys (Part 2 of 3)</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Oct 2011 03:15:29 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Eric Grey</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Topics covered 1. How one uses the Shang han lun in contemporary clinical practice, particularly concerning complex diseases typically seen in modern times 2. The importance of specializing in a particular style of Chinese medicine 3. Some advice to those of us seeking Chinese medicine knowledge I think you&#8217;ll really...
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><img class="alignright size-thumbnail wp-image-3182" title="arnaud versluys 2" src="http://deepesthealth.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/arnaud2-150x150.jpg" alt="" width="150" height="150" /></p>
<h6>Topics covered</h6>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">1. How one uses the Shang han lun in contemporary clinical practice, particularly concerning complex diseases typically seen in modern times</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">2. The importance of specializing in a particular style of Chinese medicine</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">3. Some advice to those of us seeking Chinese medicine knowledge</p>
<p>I think you&#8217;ll really enjoy the information AND the audio quality &#8211; I think I finally got it right.  <img src='http://deepesthealth.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />   Check it out at the bottom of this article!</p>
<p>Note : Dr. Versluys uses a few names that may be unfamiliar to listeners &#8211; I want to clarify these things for you.  Li Dong Yuan is the author of <a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0936185414/ref=as_li_ss_tl?ie=UTF8&amp;tag=deepesthealth-20&amp;linkCode=as2&amp;camp=217145&amp;creative=399369&amp;creativeASIN=0936185414">The Treatise on the Spleen and Stomach:</a> (Pi wei lun).<img style="border: none !important; margin: 0px !important;" src="http://www.assoc-amazon.com/e/ir?t=&amp;l=as2&amp;o=1&amp;a=0936185414&amp;camp=217145&amp;creative=399369" alt="" width="1" height="1" border="0" /> Zhang Zhong Jing is the author of the <a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0912111577/ref=as_li_ss_tl?ie=UTF8&amp;tag=deepesthealth-20&amp;linkCode=as2&amp;camp=217145&amp;creative=399369&amp;creativeASIN=0912111577">Shang Han Lun</a> and the <a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0979955254/ref=as_li_ss_tl?ie=UTF8&amp;tag=deepesthealth-20&amp;linkCode=as2&amp;camp=217145&amp;creative=399373&amp;creativeASIN=0979955254">Jin gui yao lue</a><img style="border: none !important; margin: 0px !important;" src="http://www.assoc-amazon.com/e/ir?t=deepesthealth-20&amp;l=as2&amp;o=1&amp;a=0979955254&amp;camp=217145&amp;creative=399373" alt="" width="1" height="1" border="0" /> (originally united as the Shang Han Za Bing Lun).</p>
<p>If you are interested, please check out <a title="Deepest Health Podcast 11 – Interview with Dr. Arnaud Versluys  (Part 1 of 3)" href="http://deepesthealth.com/podcast/deepest-health-podcast-11-interview-with-dr-arnaud-versluys-part-1-of-3/">Part I</a> and <a title="Deepest Health Podcast 14 -Interview with Dr. Arnaud Versluys (Part 3 of 3)" href="http://deepesthealth.com/podcast/deepest-health-podcast-14-interview-with-dr-arnaud-versluys-part-3-of-3/">Part III</a> of this interview</p>
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		<itunes:subtitle>Topics covered 1. How one uses the Shang han lun in contemporary clinical practice, particularly concerning complex diseases typically seen in modern times 2. The importance of specializing in a particular style of Chinese medicine 3.</itunes:subtitle>
		<itunes:summary>Topics covered
1. How one uses the Shang han lun in contemporary clinical practice, particularly concerning complex diseases typically seen in modern times
2. The importance of specializing in a particular style of Chinese medicine
3. Some advice to those of us seeking Chinese medicine knowledge
I think you&#039;ll really enjoy the information AND the audio quality - I think I finally got it right.  :)  Check it out at the bottom of this article!

Note : Dr. Versluys uses a few names that may be unfamiliar to listeners - I want to clarify these things for you.  Li Dong Yuan is the author of The Treatise on the Spleen and Stomach: (Pi wei lun). Zhang Zhong Jing is the author of the Shang Han Lun and the Jin gui yao lue (originally united as the Shang Han Za Bing Lun).

If you are interested, please check out Part I and Part III of this interview

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		<title>Deepest Health Podcast 11 &#8211; Interview with Dr. Arnaud Versluys  (Part 1 of 3)</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Oct 2011 03:13:47 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Eric Grey</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is the first section of a three part interview with Dr. Arnaud Versluys of the Institute of Classics in East Asian Medicine. Arnaud has been part of my education and inspiration in Chinese medicine since the beginning.  As well as leading &#38; teaching at ICEAM, he practices his craft...
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<p>This is the first section of a three part interview with Dr. Arnaud Versluys of the <a href="http://www.iceam.org/">Institute of Classics in East Asian Medicine.</a> Arnaud has been part of my education and inspiration in Chinese medicine since the beginning.  As well as leading &amp; teaching at ICEAM, he practices his craft in <a href="http://jadeacupuncturepdx.com/">NW Portland</a>, OR.</p>
<h6><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-weight: bold;">Topics covered</span></h6>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">1. The relationship of the Classical texts to the practice of medicine</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">2. The importance of careful study</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">3. Food for thought regarding the various schools of Chinese medicine</p>
<p>Note: Please pardon the relatively low volume of this podcast &#8211; we had some technological problems.  If you are interested, please check out <a href="http://deepesthealth.com/podcast/deepest-health-podcast-12-interview-with-dr-arnaud-versluys-part-2-of-3/">Part II </a>and <a href="http://deepesthealth.com/podcast/deepest-health-podcast-14-interview-with-dr-arnaud-versluys-part-3-of-3/">Part III </a>of this interview.</p>

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		<itunes:summary>This is the first section of a three part interview with Dr. Arnaud Versluys of the Institute of Classics in East Asian Medicine. Arnaud has been part of my education and inspiration in Chinese medicine since the beginning.  As well as leading &amp; teaching at ICEAM, he practices his craft in NW Portland, OR.
Topics covered
1. The relationship of the Classical texts to the practice of medicine
2. The importance of careful study
3. Food for thought regarding the various schools of Chinese medicine
Note: Please pardon the relatively low volume of this podcast - we had some technological problems.  If you are interested, please check out Part II and Part III of this interview.



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		<title>Deepest Health Podcast 10 &#8211; End of term clinical reflections</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Oct 2011 03:12:23 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Eric Grey</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Topics covered 1. My reflections as I come to the end of my first term/quarter in clinic at NCNM 2. The importance of memorization 3. The weirdness of caring for patients 4. Using all our gifts Note: The book about Davinci that I reference in the podcast is an easy,...
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<p style="padding-left: 30px;">1. My reflections as I come to the end of my first term/quarter in clinic at NCNM</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">2. The importance of memorization</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">3. The weirdness of caring for patients</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">4. Using all our gifts</p>
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<p>Note: The book about Davinci that I reference in the podcast is an easy, inspiring read <a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0440508274/ref=as_li_ss_tl?ie=UTF8&amp;tag=deepesthealth-20&amp;linkCode=as2&amp;camp=217145&amp;creative=399369&amp;creativeASIN=0440508274">How to Think Like Leonardo da Vinci: Seven Steps to Genius Every Day</a><img src="http://www.assoc-amazon.com/e/ir?t=&amp;l=as2&amp;o=1&amp;a=0440508274&amp;camp=217145&amp;creative=399369" alt="" width="1" height="1" border="0" /> (affiliate link)</p>

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1. My reflections as I come to the end of my first term/quarter in clinic at NCNM
2. The importance of memorization
3. The weirdness of caring for patients
4. Using all our gifts


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		<title>Deepest Health Podcast 9 &#8211; Interview with Dr. Heiner Fruehauf, Part II</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Oct 2011 03:10:46 +0000</pubDate>
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<p style="padding-left: 30px;">2. The real importance of legendary figures in Chinese medicine history</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">3. What the classical approach lends to a contemporary Chinese medicine context &amp; the importance of lineage</p>

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		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Oct 2011 03:05:24 +0000</pubDate>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://deepesthealth.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/heiner-fruehauf-1.jpg"><img class="alignright size-full wp-image-3204" style="border-width: 1px; border-color: black; border-style: solid; margin: 3px;" title="heiner fruehauf 1" src="http://deepesthealth.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/heiner-fruehauf-1.jpg" alt="" width="160" height="214" /></a>This is the first of a two part interview series with Dr. Heiner Fruehauf.  Heiner is a founding professor of the school of Classical Chinese Medicine at National College of Natural Medicine in Portland, OR, owner of Classical Pearls, purveyor of truly great Chinese herbal products and primary contributor to Classicalchinesemedicine.org.</p>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Oct 2011 03:03:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Oct 2011 03:02:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Deepest Health Podcast 5 &#8211; Interview with Brandt Stickley</title>
		<link>http://deepesthealth.com/podcast/deepest-health-podcast-5-interview-with-brandt-stickley/</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Oct 2011 03:00:16 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Eric Grey</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I am honored to offer this interview of Brandt Stickley talking about his practice and teaching of Chinese medicine.  This was early in the podcast&#8217;s history, and the first interview, so the sound quality is a little dubious.  Dr. Stickley apologizes for his very high volume. Topics covered 1.  Contemporary Pulse Diagnosis...
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<li><a href='http://deepesthealth.com/podcast/deepest-health-podcast-4-cancer-pulse-taking-trust/' rel='bookmark' title='Deepest Health Podcast 4 &#8211; Cancer, pulse taking &amp; trust'>Deepest Health Podcast 4 &#8211; Cancer, pulse taking &#038; trust</a></li>
<li><a href='http://deepesthealth.com/podcast/deepest-health-podcast-3-the-power-of-self-cultivation/' rel='bookmark' title='Deepest Health Podcast 3 &#8211; The Power of Self Cultivation'>Deepest Health Podcast 3 &#8211; The Power of Self Cultivation</a></li>
<li><a href='http://deepesthealth.com/podcast/deepest-health-podcast-2-visualizing-my-way-to-chinese-medicine-success/' rel='bookmark' title='Deepest Health Podcast 2 &#8211; Visualizing my way to Chinese medicine success'>Deepest Health Podcast 2 &#8211; Visualizing my way to Chinese medicine success</a></li>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://deepesthealth.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/brandt-stickley.jpg"><img class="alignright size-full wp-image-3196" style="border-width: 1px; border-color: black; border-style: solid; margin: 3px;" title="brandt stickley" src="http://deepesthealth.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/brandt-stickley.jpg" alt="" width="172" height="222" /></a>I am honored to offer this interview of <strong>Brandt Stickley</strong> talking about his practice and teaching of Chinese medicine.  This was early in the podcast&#8217;s history, and the first interview, so the sound quality is a little dubious.  Dr. Stickley apologizes for his very high volume.</p>
<h6>Topics covered</h6>
<p>1.  Contemporary Pulse Diagnosis</p>
<p>2.  Working with and learning from the incomparable <a href="http://dragonrises.org/bio-leonhammer.html">Dr. Leon Hammer</a></p>
<p>3.  Dr. Stickley&#8217;s basic understanding of Classical Chinese Medicine</p>
<p>4.  Entering the mystery, the importance of the senses, and other exciting stuff</p>
<p><strong>Links of note:</strong></p>
<ol>
<ol>
<li><a href="http://dragonrises.org/">Dragon Rises.org</a> : site containing articles, links and information about seminars pertaining to Contemporary Pulse Diagnosis</li>
<li><a href="http://www.dragonrises.edu/">Dragon Rises College of Oriental Medicine</a></li>
</ol>
</ol>
<p>Dr. Leon Hammer&#8217;s two most well-known books are <a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/redirect.html?ie=UTF8&amp;location=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.amazon.com%2FDragon-Rises-Red-Bird-Flies%2Fdp%2F0939616475%3Fie%3DUTF8%26s%3Dbooks%26qid%3D1218070078%26sr%3D8-1&amp;tag=deepesthealth-20&amp;linkCode=ur2&amp;camp=1789&amp;creative=9325">Dragon Rises, Red Bird Flies</a> and <a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/redirect.html?ie=UTF8&amp;location=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.amazon.com%2FChinese-Pulse-Diagnosis-Contemporary-Approach%2Fdp%2F0939616491%3Fie%3DUTF8%26s%3Dbooks%26qid%3D1218070603%26sr%3D1-1&amp;tag=deepesthealth-20&amp;linkCode=ur2&amp;camp=1789&amp;creative=9325">Chinese Pulse Diagnosis: A Contemporary Approach (Revised Edition)</a><img src="http://www.assoc-amazon.com/e/ir?t=deepesthealth-20&amp;l=ur2&amp;o=1" alt="" width="1" height="1" border="0" /> (both affiliate links)</p>

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		<itunes:subtitle>I am honored to offer this interview of Brandt Stickley talking about his practice and teaching of Chinese medicine.  This was early in the podcast&#039;s history, and the first interview, so the sound quality is a little dubious.  Dr.</itunes:subtitle>
		<itunes:summary>I am honored to offer this interview of Brandt Stickley talking about his practice and teaching of Chinese medicine.  This was early in the podcast&#039;s history, and the first interview, so the sound quality is a little dubious.  Dr. Stickley apologizes for his very high volume.
Topics covered
1.  Contemporary Pulse Diagnosis

2.  Working with and learning from the incomparable Dr. Leon Hammer

3.  Dr. Stickley&#039;s basic understanding of Classical Chinese Medicine

4.  Entering the mystery, the importance of the senses, and other exciting stuff

Links of note:


	Dragon Rises.org : site containing articles, links and information about seminars pertaining to Contemporary Pulse Diagnosis
	Dragon Rises College of Oriental Medicine


Dr. Leon Hammer&#039;s two most well-known books are Dragon Rises, Red Bird Flies and Chinese Pulse Diagnosis: A Contemporary Approach (Revised Edition) (both affiliate links)



 

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		<itunes:author>Eric Grey, LAc</itunes:author>
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		<itunes:duration>35:04</itunes:duration>
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		<title>Deepest Health Podcast 4 &#8211; Cancer, pulse taking &amp; trust</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Oct 2011 02:54:17 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Eric Grey</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Topics covered 1. What can Chinese medicine do for cancer? 2. Difficulties in pulse diagnosis 3. Confidence in prescribing herbal formulas Note: The natural medicine business blog I mention in the podcast no longer exists. Back to podcast archive Related posts: Deepest Health Podcast 2 &#8211; Visualizing my way to...
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<h6>Topics covered</h6>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">1. What can Chinese medicine do for cancer?</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">2. Difficulties in pulse diagnosis</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">3. Confidence in prescribing herbal formulas</p>
<p>Note: The natural medicine business blog I mention in the podcast no longer exists.</p>

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		<itunes:subtitle>Topics covered 1. What can Chinese medicine do for cancer? 2. Difficulties in pulse diagnosis 3. Confidence in prescribing herbal formulas Note: The natural medicine business blog I mention in the podcast no longer exists. - </itunes:subtitle>
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2. Difficulties in pulse diagnosis
3. Confidence in prescribing herbal formulas
Note: The natural medicine business blog I mention in the podcast no longer exists.



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		<itunes:author>Eric Grey, LAc</itunes:author>
		<itunes:explicit>clean</itunes:explicit>
		<itunes:duration>20:57</itunes:duration>
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		<title>Deepest Health Podcast 3 &#8211; The Power of Self Cultivation</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Oct 2011 02:49:19 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Eric Grey</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Topics covered 1.  The power of self-cultivation for Chinese medicine practitioners 2.  Caring for patients from the moment they arrive until the moment they leave Note : You can find most of the links discussed in the post in the recommendations vault. Back to podcast archive Related posts: Deepest Health...
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<p><img class="alignright size-full wp-image-3083" title="chinese medicine meditaiton" src="http://deepesthealth.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/chinese-medicine-meditaiton.jpg" alt="" width="225" height="300" /></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">1.  The power of self-cultivation for Chinese medicine practitioners</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">2.  Caring for patients from the moment they arrive until the moment they leave</p>
<p>Note : You can find most of the links discussed in the post <a title="Recommendations" href="http://deepesthealth.com/recommendations/">in the recommendations vault.</a></p>

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1.  The power of self-cultivation for Chinese medicine practitioners
2.  Caring for patients from the moment they arrive until the moment they leave
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		<itunes:author>Eric Grey, LAc</itunes:author>
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		<itunes:duration>20:24</itunes:duration>
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		<title>Deepest Health Podcast 2 &#8211; Visualizing my way to Chinese medicine success</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Oct 2011 02:43:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Topics Covered 1.  My clinical experience thus far: difficulties and excitement 2.  How I use visualization as a way to learn to be more effective and efficient in clinic 3.  A few questions I have about clinical practice Note: The new blog (about natural medicine and business) mentioned is now...
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<h6>Topics Covered<a href="http://deepesthealth.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/chinese-medicine-clinic.jpg"><img class="alignright size-full wp-image-3078" title="chinese medicine clinic" src="http://deepesthealth.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/chinese-medicine-clinic.jpg" alt="" width="300" height="201" /></a></h6>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">1.  My clinical experience thus far: difficulties and excitement</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">2.  How I use visualization as a way to learn to be more effective and efficient in clinic</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">3.  A few questions I have about clinical practice</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">Note: The new blog (about natural medicine and business) mentioned is now defunct, its content mostly absorbed into Deepest Health.<br />
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2.  How I use visualization as a way to learn to be more effective and efficient in clinic
3.  A few questions I have about clinical practice
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		<title>Regarding the Pericardium in Chinese medicine</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Oct 2010 23:00:50 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>G. Michael Reynolds</dc:creator>
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<p>Recently I found myself &#8220;eavesdropping&#8221; on an online conversation between two professors at <a href="http://www.ncnm.edu/" target="_blank">NCNM</a>, namely <a href="http://www.google.com/profiles/rpbatchelor" target="_blank">Roger Batchelor</a> and <a href="http://neijingacupuncture.com/" target="_blank">Ed Neal</a>, on the subject of the <a href="http://deepesthealth.com/2007/9-enlightening-things-i-learned-about-the-pericardium-from-the-chinese-organ-clock/" target="_blank">Pericardium in the Classics</a>. What came out of it was more than a little enlightening and inspired me to talk about the Pericardium a bit this week.</p>
<p>The essential point of the discussion was as follows: what we call Pericardium in the modern Chinese medicine disciplines is referred to as (quoting Ed&#8217;s translation here) “Mai vessel of the heart encircling luo vessel (network), following the hand (upper) Jue Yin six confirmation terrain, relating to the function whose (domain of responsibility) is the heart.” Usually this is shortened to Xin Bao, or Heart Wrapper or Heart Encirclement. Usually this is assumed to equal the Western anatomical structure of the pericardium, the membrane that protects the <a href="http://deepesthealth.com/2008/how-the-chinese-organ-clock-yields-a-more-nuanced-view-of-the-heart/" target="_blank">heart</a>. However, what Roger and Ed pointed out is that in it&#8217;s discussion of the <strong>function</strong> of the Xin Bao, which is always the important thing to the Classical Chinese mind, it has almost nothing to do with the pericardium whatsoever and instead equates much more closely to the coronary artery network. This, to my mind, answers a boatload of questions about what the Hand Jueyin (and the not-particularly-easy-to-understand Jueyin as a whole) actually does.</p>
<p>First, for our TCM readers, let me clarify a misconception that seems to be prevalent: contrary to what we learn in school, <a href="http://deepesthealth.com/2008/the-six-conformations-an-exploratory-post/" target="_blank">Jueyin</a> does not refer to a seldom seen and horrifying state where the patient is vomiting roundworms (something that the average Westerner can&#8217;t fathom) and occurring just before spectacular death.  Rather, Jueyin, which deals with-amongst other things-the Heart and Pericardium organs, is the &#8220;closure&#8221; of Yin, the function that causes Yin to shrink and decrease so that it may change properly into Yang. The Liver stores the Blood and supplies said Blood throughout the body. The Heart moves the Blood, but how does the Blood get there? Via the Jueyin network. The Liver feeds blood to the Heart via the Pericardium/Xin Bao. How much more sense does this process make if the Xin Bao is really the coronary artery network?</p>
<p>Also notice that the representative  true Jueyin formula, Dang Gui Si Ni Tang, is a Blood-oriented formula. If Dang Gui is the Emperor herb, you can bet the house that Blood is the primary issue at stake, especially given the construction of the rest of the formula: Gui Zhi to invigorate the Blood, Tong Cao to decrease vascular rigidity, Xi Xin to warm the Blood as it reaches the Lungs, Sheng Jiang to bolster Taiyin function in the construction of Blood and Da Zao and Zhi Gan Cao to supply material to the Blood and Yang to the Heart when used with Gui Zhi and Sheng Jiang. Blood, Blood, and more Blood. If the Xin Bao was just the wrapper of the Heart (something that always mystified me) this wouldn&#8217;t make a great deal of sense. However, if it instead is equated  with a) the coronary artery system that is responsible for feeding Blood directly to the heart and b) a more formless and function-oriented idea of the system of channels, Luo networks, etc. that encircle the Heart and supply it with Yin and material fuel, suddenly both Xin Bao and Jueyin make a lot more sense. Also if you consider that the Kidneys have to provide the ultimate Yin Water that nourish and protect everything in the upper Jiao from the overwhelming Imperial Fire of the Heart, it makes complete sense that this Yin would travel up through its child Wood (meaning the Yin Wood network of the Liver, but which the Chong Mai adds its influence to) and onto Wood&#8217;s child Fire (being the Xin Bao and Heart).<img class="alignright size-medium wp-image-915" title="fire" src="http://deepesthealth.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/fire-200x300.jpg" alt="" width="200" height="300" /></p>
<p>Let&#8217;s also look at the Xin Bao/Pericardium from psychological perspectives. The Pericardium is normally seen as the Heart protector, a point of view I agree with fully. However, I think in the context of viewing Xin Bao as a network instead of reducing it to just one physical entity (as is our modern wont) the protective membrane of the pericardium is only a small part of the story. In the primary lineage I have been trained in (Leon Hammer&#8217;s Contemporary Oriental Medicine which, despite the name, is actually very classically informed) as the Heart pulse begins to tighten there is both a restriction of circulation into the Heart proper as well as a decrease in communication with the outside world. The patient is often quite far into nervous exhaustion and is beginning to close off and isolate himself emotionally from society, loved ones, possibly also even himself, especially if a Slippery quality is also found. The tighter the pulse gets the more the constriction develops on every plane, introducing emotional rigidity (frequently accompanied by the &#8220;character armor&#8221; of muscular rigidity) and impeded circulation in the chest, frequently with sharp pains over the heart. It&#8217;s much easier to see this constriction mirrored by a constriction of the arteries that feed the Heart rather than what amounts to a lubricated bag somehow constricting.</p>
<p>I would also add in a comment from Arnaud Versluys on this subject in a lecture where he stated that the Heart&#8217;s job is to primarily serve as a container for the Shen and that in fact the Pericardium-which is also represented by the entirety of the vascular network-does the actual beating, &#8220;squeezing the heart&#8221; as it were. Again, the coronary artery network theory really works well.</p>
<p>So what does this mean practically? To begin with, this really clarifies the (manifold) uses for the Pericardium channel in acupuncture. Given the usage of Pc-4 for treating acute myocardial infarction, we can see its power over the physical structure of the Heart and its Vessels. However, we can also see the benefits of providing nourishment to the Heart via the combination of K-22, Pc-1, and Pc-2 using the Exit and Entry points of the Kidney and Pericardium channels to bring the Yin influence of Water to the Fire networks, essentially mimicking the natural activity of the Jueyin. This combination is very useful for patients whose Imperial Fire is beginning to run amok causing insomnia, flight of thought, anxiety, and other symptoms.</p>
<p>This does however raise interesting questions about the true function of Pericardium-oriented herbs such as Zhi Mu, which is frequently used to cool down and protect the Heart and Pericardium, relieving cases of delerium as well as less serious psychological difficulties along the same spectrum.</p>
<p>I would love to hear from our more experienced practitioners on this subject in the comments section.</p>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jul 2010 02:06:33 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>G. Michael Reynolds</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[&#160; &#160; Here&#8217;s a simple collection of thoughts about being in clinical practice in a Chinese medicine clinic from someone new to the profession, G. Michael Reynolds. 1. It&#8217;s hard being a natural medicine practitioner when you&#8217;re relatively sickly. I&#8217;m a fairly good sized guy.When I was born my mom&#8217;s OB/GYN...]]></description>
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<p>Here&#8217;s a simple collection of thoughts about being in clinical practice in a Chinese medicine clinic from someone new to the profession, G. Michael Reynolds.</p>
<p><strong>1. It&#8217;s hard being a natural medicine practitioner when you&#8217;re relatively sickly.</strong> I&#8217;m a fairly good sized guy.When I was born my mom&#8217;s OB/GYN declared I was going to play for the Tampa Bay Buccaneers when I grew up. (This was not a curse, I&#8217;m from Tampa.) You don&#8217;t really think &#8220;poor health, very deficient&#8221; when you look at me. However, I&#8217;m kinda sickly and I&#8217;ve kind of been that way my whole life, for reasons multifarious. I feel like I&#8217;ve come a long way in the last few years, but I still tend to be on the weak side, not able to do all that much in the way of physical activity, coming down with things a lot, etc. (When I moved in January, afterward I was sick until sometime mid March). The point here is that I frequently find myself (like today, for instance) in the middle of a diagnosis with a patient thinking &#8220;How exactly is this person supposed to believe in my ability to improve their health when, despite my best efforts, my own personal health is so poor?&#8221;</p>
<p><strong>2. Treating chronic disease is an exercise in patience and frustration management. </strong>Chronic disease is what I look for, my preferred type of case. The really difficult, chronic, life-crippling stuff. This is because these are the patients I most want to help, whose lives would be the most changed by a positive result. Despite having the tools at my disposal to do just that and making observable progress, it&#8217;s still a very frustrating process. Sometimes these things really do take four or five years to pull off, and that with hitting a home run every week. Patients get frustrated and drop out, really committed patients have other disasters befall them or are being crippled by their Western treatment regimens, patients that are doing absolutely everything right still continue to suffer greatly in the process of improvement. Some days it&#8217;s hair-pulling. Some days it&#8217;s heart breaking. This is part of the acupuncturists life that they seemed to have missed in school.</p>
<p><strong>3. Doing things in the right order takes a lot of faith and self-confidence. </strong>I have multiple patients who have some sort of chronic pain who, to my mind, are great examples of the Neijing maxim that &#8220;all pain, sores, and itching come from the Heart.&#8221; They have chronic pain that</p>
<p><img class="alignright size-medium wp-image-908" title="halls" src="http://deepesthealth.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/halls-300x232.jpg" alt="" width="300" height="232" />is being directly or indirectly caused by upper jiao blockage due to emotional distress followed by a walling off of the psycho-emotional energies of the Heart and Lungs. In both cases a powerful resistance to dealing with the loss of loved ones is crippling circulation and leading to a variety of additional symptoms, like dysmenorrhea. However, it&#8217;s not the easiest thing in the world to be charging a pretty good sized sum of money to someone who has come to you for elbow pain which isn&#8217;t really getting better and having to tell them &#8220;look, we gotta keep focusing on that emotional blockage first in order to get to your pain, otherwise we&#8217;re just knocking our heads against the wall.&#8221; Is it the truth? Absolutely. Do I still kinda worry that it&#8217;s going to make me and every other acupuncturist alive look bad and one day she&#8217;ll stop coming in and tell her friends about what a waste it was and&#8230;you bet. After all, you can&#8217;t have a good neurosis without a lot of work.</p>
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<p><strong>4. Some days you feel like you did everything wrong, and yet everything right happens. </strong>I&#8217;ll never understand this one. You needled these two points and&#8230;just didn&#8217;t &#8220;feel it.&#8221; Like there was no real connection. You had to more or less guess on the formula and just kinda threw it out there, not really knowing what would happen. You were too beat to take a proper pulse and so had to work out what to do from other angles, and even then things didn&#8217;t seem right. You were sure that what you did was going to fail utterly. However, the next time you talk to the patient, they&#8217;re thrilled with the results. Go figure.</p>
<p><strong>5. Some days you feel like you did everything right and the case barely budges.</strong> See #2</p>
<p><strong>6. You really do have to get used to the idea that patients are frequently so closed off, out of touch with themselves/reality, and self-unaware that they have no idea what&#8217;s really wrong with them. </strong>Frequently they can&#8217;t even tell you if things are better or worse because they literally have no idea. See #3</p>
<p><strong>7. The practices of other practitioners is going to make you really mad some days.</strong> You&#8217;re going to hear about people who are essentially running a health food store/supplement supply under the guise of a medical license for all the hawking of goods they do. They will practice lousy medicine, though their patients probably don&#8217;t realize it. They will have evolved into the Monte Hall model by force of necessity, because their actual CM acumen is so poor. So in order to survive, they will pull in every modality, every product, everything in existence into their practice and sell it all. Their practice will be bigger than yours, they will be making more money than you, their car/address will be nicer, they will be in the local magazines. They will still not know what they are doing, they will not be reaching the level of results our ancestors expect from us, however they will be feeding the consumer culture of our society, and that is why they will be doing well. You will know this, but it will still make you mad.</p>
<p><strong>8. Your practice is going to make you really mad some days.</strong> You will find yourself saying &#8220;if this stuff is so great, if I&#8217;m practicing such a superior modality, if my herbs are such high quality, if I have it on absolute fact that I am doing what my patient needs when they need it, then why in the hell aren&#8217;t any of them completely cured? If my way is better, then why is it such a small operation? If I&#8217;m so great then why do I ride the bus instead of my Mercedes/Porsche/whatever? Why aren&#8217;t I better at treating emergency/acute/chronic/mystery/women&#8217;s/men&#8217;s/children&#8217;s/animals illnesses? Why do I have so few answers?&#8221;  Again, neurosis takes work.</p>
<p><strong>9. All of these things will come and go along with this thought: man, this stuff is really great and I feel good.</strong> Yin transforms into Yang and Yang transforms into Yin. Good days, bad days, they&#8217;re all part of it it seems. I personally think that people who only have good days (residents of Portland notwithstanding) need psychological evaluation and a lie detector test. Just try to remember that when things are bad that soon it will turn around and that when things are good that you don&#8217;t have all the answers just yet.</p>
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<p>After posting an earlier post discussing the first of my five maxims, a request came up to present the rest of them. Never one to shy from a good request, today I&#8217;d like to present Reynolds&#8217; Second Maxim, which is &#8220;<strong>Don&#8217;t hear horses and think zebras&#8221;</strong> which could also be phrased &#8220;Thou shalt not overcomplicate!&#8221;</p>
<h3>&#8220;This will be the seventh time we have destroyed Zion&#8230;&#8221;</h3>
<p>I remember going to the movies to see &#8220;The Matrix Reloaded&#8221; during the course of which a neat and tidy story which everyone was familiar with was exploded into about a million little subplots and alternate storylines with a new cast of characters that became hard to keep track of and events and motivations that didn&#8217;t make a great deal of sense. That and some sort of rave/orgy. Upon leaving the theater, my girlfriend at the time turned to me and said &#8220;Uhh&#8230;that was needlessly complicated.&#8221; This I feel is an excellent example of the typical state we frequently find ourselves in, especially once herbs enter the picture.</p>
<p>I feel that this concept is heavily tied in to <a href="http://deepesthealth.com/2010/the-art-of-formula-combining-pt-1-reynolds-first-maxim/" target="_blank">my first maxim (&#8220;What are the symptoms?&#8221;)</a> in that you don&#8217;t want to make the mistake that many physicians have made throughout history, East and West, which is deciding what a great idea a particular path of treatment would be and  implementing it without bothering to first find out if it&#8217;s a good idea.</p>
<h3>Not women, THIS woman</h3>
<p>This very much applies to the TCM habit of protocol-making, where, in the example of one very popular protocol, a treatment method including both points and formulas is decided upon depending on what week of her menstrual cycle a woman is currently in. If it&#8217;s week one, she gets Formula A and Point Protocol A. Week two is Formula B and Point Protocol B and so on. Now at first glance this seems like it could be a great idea, as it appears to take into account the fact that a woman is likely to be in a slightly different physiological state depending on what week of her cycle is in. However, it fails to take into account the only thing that matters, which is the condition of the patient before you. It&#8217;s very easy to get caught up in thinking of things in broad strokes, the nature of women, the resonance between this or that herb and female physiology, lab results, and a million other things when in fact the only question of importance is still &#8220;what are the symptoms?&#8221; All information regarding symbology, tendencies, studies, typical clinical solutions, etc. is only of value insofar as it can be translated into a specific and accurate treatment for the individual. What works on &#8220;women&#8221; is of little use as we are interested in what works for <strong>this</strong> woman, whose specific menstrual complaints may have very little to do with Spleen Qi Deficiency, Blood Deficiency, etc. and may instead come from sources as varied as emotional trauma, overexercise, or acute stress.</p>
<p>Now this is not to say that I don&#8217;t use protocols, which would be the furthest thing from the truth. Technically, as long as we are  borrowing from someone else to match a situation, that&#8217;s a protocol. I just do my best to a) use the most powerful and effective protocols and b) only use protocols that are very strongly indicated for the case in question. The truth of the matter is that I tend to avoid overcomplication by using the most simple, direct, elegant, profound, and well&#8230;broad protocols we&#8217;ve ever had the privilege of being handed, which lie in the work of Zhang Zhong Jing.</p>
<p>Now those of you who attended NCNM have likely not experienced what those of us who are classic-minded but came through TCM schools have, so please try to put yourself in our shoes a bit. My particular experience frequently involved the presenting of a case to a supervisor who, especially the Chinese ones, would roll their eyes at my Shang Han Lun-based approach and instead begin rattling off piles of points, truckloads of herbs with dosages set to numbers gained via some inexplicable method that had more to do with cooking than herbology in my opinion, and sent off to make the patient better instead of doing whatever craziness I had been working on, despite the fact that 10 times out of 10 I could point to textual support in the Shang Han Lun or Jin Gui Yao Lue for what it was I was trying to accomplish. This to me is the ultimate overcomplication and unfortunately this &#8220;whatchagot&#8221; method of making formulas out of single herbs (or dui yao pairs amongst the more enlightened) is the hallmark of TCM herbology&#8217;s gross ineffectiveness.<img class="alignright size-medium wp-image-901" title="zeeba" src="http://deepesthealth.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/zeeba-300x212.jpg" alt="" width="300" height="212" /></p>
<h3>An Example</h3>
<p>I&#8217;ll give the following example which is, admittedly, a straw man, but one that will hopefully illustrate what I&#8217;m going on about to the non-TCM trained set. I can assure you that I have seen this very approach many times by TCM herbalists, even very experienced ones. Suppose a patient presents with the following: sore throat, somewhat mild all-over pain that is especially strong in head and back, fever, chills, yellow phlegm in chest and sinuses, headache in occipital, parietal, and frontal regions, coughing, sneezing, nasal drip, nausea, irritability. Tongue has thick white coat. Standout pulse qualities are floating and moderate at left cun position and slightly deep and tight at left guan position. I will present three different ways of dealing with this case:</p>
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<p><strong><span style="text-decoration: underline;">Method #1: The completely wrong way: </span><span style="font-weight: normal;">Diagnosis: Wind-Heat Treatment: Yin Qiao San, or failing that Chuan Xin Lian Pian + Bi Yan Pian. Rationale: , YQS is primary formula for early stage Wind-Heat. CXLP is extremely antiviral and antibacterial, BYP is good for runny nose and sneezing.</span></strong></p>
<p><strong><span style="text-decoration: underline;">Method #2: The needlessly complicated way:</span><span style="font-weight: normal;"> Diagnosis: Wind-Cold invasion turning into Heat. Treatment: Make the following symptom-based custom formula (with rationale):</span></strong></p>
<p>Lian Qiao + Jin Yin Hua: Good for Wind-Heat, clears Heat, reduce fever, soothes sore throat<br />Yan Hu Suo: #1 herb for pain<br />Du Huo+Ji Sheng: #1 combination for back pain<br />Gao Ben: relieves head pain, back pain, also good vs wind<br />Ban Lan Gen: clears Lung Heat, antiviral/antibacterial<br />Lu Gen: clears Heat Phlegm from Lungs<br />Jing Jie + Fang Feng=expel Wind<br />Niu Bang Zi: relieves cough, clears toxicity<br />Bo He: releases exterior, clears Heat, relieves irritability<br />Sha Ren: nausea<br />Gan Cao: clears Heat, harmonizes formula</p>
<p><strong><span style="text-decoration: underline;">Method #3: The right way :</span><span style="font-weight: normal;"> Diagnosis: Combined Taiyang-Shaoyang syndrome Treatment: Xiao Chai Hu Tang modifed as follows (as listed in the original SHL text):</span></strong></p>
<p>Chai Hu<br />Huang Qin<br />Ban Xia<br />Gan Jiang<br />Zhi Gan Cao<br />Wu Wei Zi<br />Gui Zhi<br />Gua Lou Shi</p>
<p>Rationale: These are the modifications given by Zhang Zhong Jing to match this very situation. Even if you didn&#8217;t know these, by<a href="http://deepesthealth.com/2007/if-youre-not-memorizing-youre-not-paying-attention/" target="_blank"> having a working knowledge of the SHL/JGYL</a> you would know enough of the approach to work this out for yourself. There&#8217;s no fishing around for herbs to match up vs symptoms and having to guess which opti<br />
on is better than another, its all there already. The problem is primarily blockage in the Shaoyang network with some accompanying Taiyang symptoms. Xiao Chai Hu Tang is the primary formula for resolving this type of blockage with a couple modifications made to assist. Note that the point of this formula is to unblock Shaoyang, unblock Taiyang, unbind the chest, drain damp, strengthen Taiyin and that all curative actions are based out of that without having to make the World&#8217;s Biggest Formula in an attempt to solve a relatively simple problem that was solved (and written down) a couple thousand years ago. As Arnaud Versluys says, &#8220;there&#8217;s really no reason to re-invent hot water every time you need to cook something.&#8221;</p>
<p>Even in the case of chronic disease, the approach remains the same: choose the correct root that most accurately fits the situation and modify to match specifics. It also helps to have reliable information to draw from, which is of course why I insist that Zhang Zhong Jing&#8217;s work must be the toolbox that all Chinese herbology reaches into when it needs a tool. Before you start thinking &#8220;Ok, I&#8217;m going to take this formula and mix it with that formula and then add these herbs and then refer them to that doctor for this therapy and&#8230;&#8221; first see if there is a simple solution to the problem, as is so often the case. Don&#8217;t be afraid ti mix and match with formulas, herbs, modalities, etc. but make sure it&#8217;s necessary first.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m sure I will expound upon this at a later date but for now I hope this gets you thinking in the right direction.</p>
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<p>Let&#8217;s conclude this series on strategy in Chinese medicine with our final two points.</p>
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<h3>Treating Erratically</h3>
<p>Martin Luther once said that Mankind is like a drunkard who upon falling off his horse on one side overcompensates and promptly falls off the other side. In Chinese medicine, the opposite of sticking with the same protocol no matter the situation is constantly changing what you&#8217;re doing. Now, I want to draw an important distinction here. The speed with which you have to make adjustments will depend on many factors, especially the modality being used. The very nature of acupuncture is such that you&#8217;re both creating and reacting to changes in the patient&#8217;s energy field, which by its nature is subtle. This just naturally leads to treatments in most cases being completely different from week to week in a lot of patients.</p>
<p>In the case of herbs however, <strong>what you don&#8217;t want to do</strong> with a chronic case if you can possibly help it is to leap from formula to formula. If you have legitimately resolved a layer of the condition and are ready to move to the next thing, that&#8217;s one thing. What you don&#8217;t want to do however is &#8220;Ok this week I think I&#8217;ll give you You Gui Wan because last week I gave you Si Jun Zi Tang and the week before I gave you Xiao Yao Wan, so I feel like we&#8217;re covering all the bases.&#8221; As I have heard Heiner Fruehauf eloquently state, you have to have the courage to decide on a base formula that adequately meets the conditions and then stick with it long term by regularly alternating a small amount of the ingredients.</p>
<p>That said, I don&#8217;t want to discourage anyone from having the courage to take a well-calculated risk when they aren&#8217;t 100% sure of the outcome. Let&#8217;s be honest, not many of us are completely sure about exactly what&#8217;s going to happen every time they hand their patient a bottle. I certainly am not. In fact, I find myself white-knuckling the patient&#8217;s chart, re-re-checking my conclusion long after they&#8217;ve gone home more than I care to admit. Its part of the Chinese medicine experience in our age, in my opinion.</p>
<p><strong>In short</strong>, treat what you see and not according to pre-conceived notions if you can possibly help it. When in doubt, remember <a href="http://deepesthealth.com/2010/the-art-of-formula-combining-pt-1-reynolds-first-maxim/" target="_blank">Reynolds&#8217; First Maxim!</a></p>
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<h3>Too Many Doctors Spoil the Case</h3>
<p>A huge problem in Chinese medicine-and one not easily resolved-that you will run into with many of your patients is the fact that you are only one of a small army of medical practitioners that they are currently seeing, and often the last one to the party, so to speak. You will often find yourself having to cope with not only the patient&#8217;s original condition, but also the added side effects and pulse-obscuring properties of drugs given to them by their team of MDs, the pile of supplements procured from their local health food store, their ill-advised Medifast diet/candida cleanse/detox protocol, their equally ill-advised weight room habit, their Reiki practitioner, their support group, and oh yes, their OTHER acupuncturist. Different doctors I&#8217;ve talked to have had different things to say on this subject. Dr. Leon Hammer has said that he typically suggests that if the patient would like to try these other methods that perhaps they come back after having first exhausted their possibilities. A famous Taiwanese doctor that a couple of my friends learned under is reputed to have refused treatment to patients who were currently under the care of someone else. How you handle this is your business of course, but suffice it to say that the more factors there are in the treater equation the more difficult it&#8217;s going to be to get anywhere with the case.</p>
<p>In America at least, <strong>most of the people who seek us out are in a high degree of physical and energetic chaos.</strong> The nature of our societal demands such as our crazy &#8220;rest is for the weak&#8221; work ethic, our fetishization of requiring the absolute best of the best of everything we come into contact with, keeping up with not just the Joneses anymore but the rich, famous, and Hollywood-employed as well, our terrible diets, our masochistic exercise programs, our sense of entitlement and lack of tradition, our rejection of the old and glorification of the young, our out and out INSANITY in every corner of our existence produces a patient who is coming apart at the seams on their best day. The introduction of any more chaos whatsoever into this picture can cause nothing but further catastrophe. It is absolutely not surprising that our most common &#8220;big&#8221; diseases are cancer and autoimmune conditions. We are chaos personified, the absolute opposite of peaceful growth and progression like the seasons. Nearly every patient that walks through our doors will be in this state and it would be well to keep in mind.</p>
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<p>Also worth noting is that the primary problem in the chaotic state is that the very <strong>Yin and Yang of our beings is separating</strong> and with that separation comes greater and greater vulnerability to more disastrous diseases of every sphere. In my opinion, this separation begins at the level of the Gui Zhi Tang-type Taiyang invasion (note that Gui Zhi Tang&#8217;s most famous characteristic is that of &#8220;harmonizing Ying and Wei&#8221; which is nothing less than putting Yin and Yang back into contact with each other) and ends in death. Everything else along that continuum is some degree of separation of Yin and Yang and needs to be accounted for thusly. I fervently recommend that anyone not intimately familiar with this concept read the following article by Dr. Hammer entitled,<a href="http://www.dragonrises.edu/articles/QiWildRevised.pdf" target="_blank">&#8221; Towards a Unified Theory of Chronic Disease with Regard to the Separation of Yin and Yang and &#8216;The Qi is Wild.&#8221;</a></p>
<p>How do these two topics relate to timing and momentum? Simple. If you&#8217;re trying to walk to Albuquerque you&#8217;ll never get there if you walk toward Portland for a day, then San Diego for a day, then Atlanta for two days. You also won&#8217;t get there if you ask directions from everyone you meet and they all tell you something different. <strong>Timing and momentum is doing the right things at the right time consistently.</strong> Cure doesn&#8217;t happen without it.</p>
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<p>That concludes this series. I hope you&#8217;ve gotten something useful out of it. If you&#8217;d like to go back and read the previous segments, here they are again:</p>
<p><a href="http://deepesthealth.com/2010/strategy-in-chinese-medicine-timing-and-momentum-pt-1/" target="_blank">http://deepesthealth.com/2010/strategy-in-chinese-medicine-timing-and-momentum-pt-1/</a></p>
<p><a href="http://deepesthealth.com/2010/strategy-in-chinese-medicine-timing-and-momentum-pt-2/" target="_blank">http://deepesthealth.com/2010/strategy-in-chinese-medicine-timing-and-momentum-pt-2/</a></p>
<p><a href="http://deepesthealth.com/2010/strategy-in-chinese-medicine-timing-and-momentum-pt-3/" target="_blank">http://deepesthealth.com/2010/strategy-in-chinese-medicine-timing-and-momentum-pt-3/</a></p>
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		<description><![CDATA[The past two weeks we&#8217;ve been discussing timing as it pertains to acupuncture and herbology. Let&#8217;s now tackle momentum. As you may recall, the quote we have been referencing from the Art of War is this: “When a falcon strike breaks the body of its prey, it is because of...
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<p>The past two weeks we&#8217;ve been discussing timing as it pertains to acupuncture and herbology. Let&#8217;s now tackle <strong>momentum.</strong></p>
<p>As you may recall, the quote we have been referencing from the <a href="http://www.amazon.com/Art-War-Sun-Tzu/dp/1590302257/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&amp;s=books&amp;qid=1277346625&amp;sr=8-2" target="_blank">Art of War</a> is this:</p>
<h4>“When a falcon strike breaks the body of its prey, it is because of timing. When torrential water tosses boulders, it is because of momentum.”</h4>
<p>What Sun Zi is talking about here is the accomplishing of something difficult, moving mountains as it were. In Chinese medicine this can be compared to dealing with difficult and intractable cases, the likes of which unfortunately are rapidly increasing in number here in the U.S. These cases are often created by incorrect or ineffectual treatment of a condition that is made orders of magnitude more complicated by the failed treatment itself. Here I&#8217;m talking about things like disease suppression, medication side effects, and the results of surgery, all things that most of our patients will have experienced in spades before they ever walk through our doors as their &#8220;last hope&#8221;. Leaving aside for now the problems of what to attack and how (something I&#8217;ll cover at a later date), let&#8217;s now assume that <a href="http://deepesthealth.com/2008/does-chinese-medicine-cure-disease/" target="_blank">we have intervened in some way and had some sort of positive effect on the patient.</a> This is where momentum comes in.</p>
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<h3>Consecutive intervention</h3>
<p>The process is almost always going to be the same for deciding on treatment: gather the symptoms, look at the whole picture, make a decision. The next time the patient comes in this decision-making process has to be repeated. Even if the decision is to continue the treatment from the previous session, you&#8217;re still having to make the call of &#8220;what do they need me to do right now?&#8221; The time-honored TCM school clinic technique of &#8220;I did these points last week and they feel better so I&#8217;m just gonna do them again&#8221; <a href="http://deepesthealth.com/2009/the-lingshu-and-becoming-a-superior-chinese-medicine-practitioner/" target="_blank">is just not going to fly</a> unless a proper examination reveals that yes, that combination of points is appropriate here. <strong>This is the primary component of establishing momentum, doing the right thing at the right time, repeated.</strong></p>
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<h3>Uprooting</h3>
<p>Borrowing from the Chinese martial art Taijiquan: in Taijiquan, a primary goal is to &#8220;uproot&#8221; your opponent (meaning, remove their structural stability) so that you can basically do whatever you want with them. My teacher&#8217;s teacher once compared this to a job he used to work at a loading dock in a harbor in Taiwan moving giant barrels from ship to land and vice versa. By themselves, the barrels were absolutely impossible for even 2-3 people to move. Yet, if you uprooted it by tilting it up onto its edge a bit you could now sort of roll it by yourself to wherever you needed it to go.</p>
<p>Treating chronic disease is very much like this. Your first task is to make enough initial headway against the condition that now it starts responding to what you want to do, which I can tell you is not always the easiest thing in the world. However, once you finally achieve that uprooting, now you have to keep it uprooted so that you can keep pushing it where you want it to go, like the aforementioned barrels. Explaining what to do to achieve this would take its own series, and really is the sum of all other treatment knowledge you are able to bring to bear. So instead I will tell you what <strong>not </strong>to do, otherwise known as a group of pitfalls that will effectively kill whatever momentum you have built. Note that some of these pitfalls will be of your doing and some will be of your patients&#8217; doing. It&#8217;s part of your job to make clear to them what needs to happen in order for the desired result to be achieved, meaning achieving health.</p>
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<h3>Pitfall #1-Failing to modify</h3>
<p>Something that is abundantly clear in Western medicine that somehow we in Chinese medicine lose sight of is the idea of <strong>habituation. </strong>A short explanation of this phenomenon is this: when the exact same treatment-of any kind-is repeated enough, the body or the agents of disease will adapt to it making the treatment no longer effective. This can actually be viewed from a couple different viewpoints. One is that the patient is rarely in the exact same situation two visits in a row (&#8220;you can never step in the same river twice&#8221;), especially where acupuncture is concerned. Another is that if you are dealing with an intelligent pathogenic agent (virus, bacteria, spirochete, etc.)<strong> if you continually show it the same attack it will eventually adapt, making the attack ineffective. </strong>Think MRSA.</p>
<p>This is fairly easy to deal with in acupuncture, as you can throw in subtle variations to the treatment that meet the patient exactly where they are at that moment in very specific detail. With herbs it&#8217;s more difficult as in these types of cases you&#8217;ll need the same formula for months at a time<strong>. </strong>The <strong>key</strong> to this then is having a good enough grasp of your root formulas and <a href="http://deepesthealth.com/2010/the-essential-herb-learning-report-and-the-deepest-health-newsletter/" target="_blank">also of the nature of your individual herbs</a> so that you can switch in and out appropriate substitutions that still get you where you want to go. Now obviously, no two herbs are a perfect trade for each other as even different parts of the same plant behave very differently and have very different properties. In the context of a carefully modified formula, however, the structure that is not changed will help keep what has been changed moving in the right direction.</p>
<p>This concept is most vitally important for cases where there is an organism on the other end that is being dealt with as part of the process (like Lyme Disease for instance), but this also holds true for other deep diseases, though you may not need to rotate as often. In a fast-reacting case (like Lyme) I generally look to rotate ingredients every three weeks or so. I usually look to rotate major (and powerful) components of the base formula I&#8217;m using that I&#8217;m confident I can get a good trade for. So if the base formula is Gui Zhi Tang, I would have the option to rotate just about any ingredient in the formula. Rou Gui for Gui Zhi, Gan Jiang or Pao Jiang for Sheng Jiang, Chi Shao for Bai Shao, Gan Cao for Zhi Gan Cao. In this particular case I would probably only rotate two ingredients (unless I had a very good reason for doing otherwise-always a caveat!) and try to stick to the soul of the formula by changing Gui Zhi less frequently than the other ingredients. Obviously this applies to any formula that you could use long-term. Note that in some cases (and with some patients) you&#8217;ll need to rotate more frequently or more creatively, with other cases you can get away with longer waits. Your mileage will vary.</p>
<p>If you fall into the pitfall of failing to modify you will certainly see the case stall out, which can mean not only a simply stalling of progress but can frequently be the first step into a quick regression depending on what else is going on in the patient&#8217;s life. <strong>You want to avoid this at all costs.</strong></p>
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eek we&#8217;ll discuss the pitfalls of <strong>Treating Erratically </strong>and <strong>Too Many Doctors Spoil the Case.</strong></p>
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		<description><![CDATA[  Last week we began by exploring the concept of timing in acupuncture. This week we&#8217;ll move on to herbs. Timing in Herbology Timing is equally important in herbology, as knowing where in the system the disease currently is will dictate what formula you prescribe and what modifications have to...
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<p>Last week we began by exploring the concept of timing in acupuncture. This week we&#8217;ll move on to herbs.</p>
<h2>Timing in Herbology</h2>
<p>Timing is equally important in herbology, as knowing where in the system the disease currently is will dictate what formula you prescribe and what modifications have to be made (I discuss this in an upcoming free PDF entitled &#8220;Beginners Guide to Acute Respiratory Disease&#8221;).</p>
<p>For this, the <a href="http://deepesthealth.com/2008/the-six-conformations-an-exploratory-post/">Six Conformation model</a> used by Zhang Zhongjing (called the Six Channel Model in TCM) is without question the most powerful tool we have at our disposal, telling us where the disharmony is, what its nature is, and what principles are required to fix it.  This applies in acute as well as chronic cases.<strong> For example &#8211; If the problem is diagnosed as a Cold invasion of the channels of Taiyang</strong> we know several things at once:</p>
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<li>We know that since the invasion has penetrated into the channel that <strong>the surface is open</strong>, which removes the need for the pure surface opening action of Ma Huang Tang.</li>
<li>We know that Taiyang is a Yang conformation. Therefore, our efforts are going to be centered on <em>expelling the Cold pathogen</em> and that if resolved correctly there won&#8217;t be any long term consequences of the invasion having taken place (as opposed to an invasion of the Yin conformations which tends to leave the need for a significant cleanup operation after being resolved).</li>
<li>We know that according to the Five Phase (or Five Element) model Taiyang is associated with Cold Water of the North. Taiyang invasions tend to be accompanied by all over muscular aches of varying degrees (depending on the situation). If we envision the Taiyang channels (UB/SI) as being rivers of cold water coming down from the mountains to nourish the plains (read about <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mount_Kailash" target="_blank">Mt. Kailash</a> for the ultimate example of this) we can see that when those rivers get more cold, they freeze over and stop flowing. The Chinese characters for pain 疼痛 (teng tong) indicate a state of cold and of obstruction of movement, much like the frozen river analogy. <strong>This tells us that we need to &#8220;melt the ice&#8221; by warming up the channels and re-establishing uninterrupted flow.</strong></li>
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<p>The formula that answers all of these requirements is <a href="http://deepesthealth.com/2007/chinese-herb-of-the-week-qualities-and-uses-of-gui-zhi-cinnamon-twig/">Gui Zhi</a> Tang. If given on time (meaning before the pathogen passes on to, say, the Shaoyang level) the patient will recover quickly. Aside from the diagnostic timing, however, the <a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0912111577?ie=UTF8&amp;tag=deepesthealth-20&amp;linkCode=as2&amp;camp=1789&amp;creative=390957&amp;creativeASIN=0912111577">Shang Han Lun </a><img style="border:none !important; margin:0px !important;" src="http://www.assoc-amazon.com/e/ir?t=deepesthealth-20&amp;l=as2&amp;o=1&amp;a=0912111577" border="0" alt="" width="1" height="1" />tells us about another necessary element of timing.  <em>An all important feature of timing and momentum in Chinese herbalism is the method and length of time to apply treatment.</em></p>
<p>The text that introduces Gui Zhi Tang makes very clear that the formula must be prescribed under very specific conditions. One of them is the instruction to give the decoction to the patient warm, then have them bundle up to await sweating. However it also makes very clear that once the patient sweats the formula must be stopped immediately.</p>
<p>The danger here (one that I have seen happen many times and have even experienced personally) is that the patient over-sweats and suffers damage to their Yang Qi, thus creating a different or more complex condition that now has to be treated.  In a Gui Zhi Tang type situation, over-sweating can lead to a combined Taiyang-Shaoyin condition o<strong>f external invasion with underlying Yang deficiency</strong> (needing a formula such as Gui Zhi Jia Fu Zi Tang).</p>
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<h2>Strength and Focus</h2>
<p>The other side of this is the question of strength and focus. A principle that <a href="http://www.classicalchinesemedicine.org/about-us/" class="broken_link">Heiner Fruehauf</a> often points out is that you must have not only the right formula with the right herbs, but also of sufficient quality and enough of them.</p>
<p>A practice of a lot of TCM-trained herbalists (including those from China and even those who have been in practice since the early days of the PRC) is one of adjusting downward individual herb dosages in formulas for the purposes of safety or according to someones weight. This is especially true for Shang Han Lun formulas, which seem overly aggressive in comparison with modern &#8220;gentle&#8221; formulas.</p>
<p>TCM herbalists will take a formula like the aforementioned Gui Zhi Tang and begin stripping it of its curative power by ratcheting downward the dosages of the warming herbs Gui Zhi and Sheng Jiang by as much as half, then playing around with the amounts of Da Zao, Bai Shao, and Zhi Gan Cao according to some paradigm known only to themselves. The result is the equivalent of cooking a complex dish in the kitchen while randomly choosing ingredient amounts and never tasting the results. <strong>This results in a grossly ineffective formula</strong> (I&#8217;ll save a critique of the practice of ingredient carpet-bombing for another time).</p>
<h3>Native Dosage</h3>
<p>An absolute fact in Chinese herbology is that each herb we use behaves differently in both different dosages and different ratios within each formula. Each herb also has what I think of as a &#8220;native dosage&#8221;, meaning the amount that you are most likely to see it prescribed at effectively. For example, Gui Zhi at 9g, Chai Hu at 24g, Ban Xia at 12g, etc. Going away from these amounts (without very good reason) usually translates into outright failure in my experience. If you need Gui Zhi Tang, you also need Gui Zhi at 9g. <em>If you need Xiao Chai Hu Tang, you need Chai Hu at 24g</em>. Going away from this is a good way to not be successful vs. the condition you are treating.</p>
<p>When you change the dosage of herbs you change the functional emphasis of that herb within its formula. <strong>The best example of this principle in my opinion is with Fu Zi.</strong> Fu Zi in most TCM clinics-if used at all-is used at a very low dosage, usually in the range of 3-6g. The fear is that because Fu Zi is so &#8220;toxic&#8221; that more than a small amount will give the patient headaches, nosebleeds, hot flashes, etc.</p>
<p>Paradoxically, Fu Zi in this small amount causes its energy to rush outward to the exterior and to the head, causing the very situation that they were trying to avoid in the first place. However, once the dosage crosses a certain line (around 18g in my experience) its entire behavior changes. Now instead of warming the Yang and sending it rushing outward and upward, it grabs the Yang qi of the body and <strong>causes it to descend into storage (the lower Dantian in Qigong parlance) where it is now able to recharg</strong>e. Rather than feeling hyperactive, patients on the receiving end of recharge formulas like Qian Yang Dan (in which I usually use 30g of Fu Zi) have the overwhelming urge to go to sleep, which is exactly the aim of the formula.</p>
<h3>Ratio</h3>
<p>Finally, one must account for the ratios of herbs in formulas. In the Shang Han<br />
 Lun there is an army of formulas that are essentially Gui Zhi Tang with one ingredient changed in some way. This small shift significantly changes the impact of the formula.</p>
<p>For example, if in the case of Gui Zhi Tang you increase Gui Zhi to 15g you now have the formula Gui Zhi Jia Gui Tang.  Now, instead of treating a case of the common cold, the formula treats the anxiety disorder known as Running Piglet Syndrome. The increased Gui Zhi stokes the Fire of the Heart.  The Heart, in turn, is now able to descend and overcome the amassed cold in the Lower Jiao.  This amassed cold was what the patient&#8217;s Yang qi was counterflowing away from -  causing the Running Piglet sensation.  Problem solved.</p>
<p>Another example starting with Gui Zhi Tang.   If we remove Bai Shao altogether we get the formula Gui Zhi Qu Shao Yao Tang, which treats conditions of fullness in the chest and skipping pulse.  These symptoms  point toward Upper Jiao blockage as well as deficiency of the Heart itself. Removal of sour flavored Bai Shao also removes the formulas restraints on the Wood energy of the body (due to Bai Shao&#8217;s affinity with Metal and Metal&#8217;s husband-wife relationship with Wood).  Wood is now more  able to feed the Fire energy (due to Mother-Son relationship) and release the body&#8217;s Earth energy (again, husband-wife relationship) which makes up half the Middle Jiao!</p>
<p><strong>Formula Strength</strong></p>
<p>There is also the question of amount of herbs taken. Zhang Zhong Jing was very clear on the necessary amounts to be taken for all of the formulas in his book, as well as specific preparation instructions. A close inspection of the Shang Han Lun&#8217;s preparatory methods reveals formulas that are orders of magnitude more concentrated than their modern descendants, using significantly less water both at the start of decocting as well as the final dose.</p>
<p>In both individual herb dosages as well as the total amount to be taken, these formulas were very much built upon the idea of the right intervention at the right time and in concentrated strength. It&#8217;s no good to just try and push a boulder any old way in hopes that it will move. You have to push at the right spot (the fulcrum) and use sufficient force  in order to accomplish the task.</p>
<p>The point here is that as herbalists <a href="http://deepesthealth.com/2010/the-essential-herb-learning-report-and-the-deepest-health-newsletter/" target="_blank">we absolutely must know what our herbs do inside and out, right down to the effects of differing amounts</a>. This will prevent the useless (and potentially dangerous in the hands of the over-enthusiastic) practice of trying to assign random amounts and percentages to our formula components.</p>
<p>Next week we&#8217;ll begin tackling the issue of momentum.</p>
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<div>This week I&#8217;d like to introduce a vital concept from the world of Classical Chinese military strategy, namely that of timing and momentum.  In the Chinese military classic The Art of War, Sun Zi states:</div>
<h4>&#8220;When a falcon strike breaks the body of its prey, it is because of timing. When torrential water tosses boulders, it is because of momentum.&#8221;</h4>
<div>In everything we do, whether using acupuncture, herbs, tui na, or even speaking with a patient, following this concept is what allows us to accomplish great things on behalf of our patients, while <strong>not</strong> following it will lead to frustration and lack of results. Let&#8217;s break this into two subjects and cover them individually.</div>
<h2>Timing</h2>
<p>In the current culture of TCM, the evidence-based protocol is king. A hypothetical example: &#8220;On 6-14/09 Patient K. was diagnosed with asthma. UB-13, UB-23, Ding Chuan, and Lu-9 were needled with reinforcing method for 30 minutes. Treatment was repeated daily for 7 days. Upon re-evaluation patient&#8217;s spirometer performance increased 15%. Therefore, this protocol is useful in treating asthma. &#8221; This is how case studies are presented to us in our primary textbooks. This is also the primary research method in Chinese TCM hospitals presently, thus making it the perceived superior method of research and treatment amongst the standardized professional Chinese medicine community in the West.</p>
<p>However, this method has an ocean of problems, chiefly that it doesn&#8217;t work very well when replicated in clinic. Leaving alone for now the problem of misunderstanding what particular points/methods/herbs/formulas really do, it also neglects the necessity of <a href="http://deepesthealth.com/2010/the-art-of-formula-combining-pt-1-reynolds-first-maxim/" target="_blank">meeting the patient exactly where they are at that very moment.</a> This is what I mean by timing.</p>
<h4><span style="font-weight: normal;"><strong>No matter how effective a formula or protocol has been in the past, if applied to the wrong situation it will not only not be effective, it may actually make the situation worse.</strong></span></h4>
<p>The importance of accurate diagnosis cannot be overstated. As a clinician, it&#8217;s the heart of your job to figure exactly what is going on with the patient in front of you at that moment, work out specifically what needs to be done, and apply it correctly. It&#8217;s no good giving a patient Gui Zhi Tang because they have a &#8220;Wind-Cold Invasion&#8221; when in fact the disease has moved on to a deeper level and the patient now needs Xiao Chai Hu Tang. You may have been needling St-36 and Sp-3 for the past three visits and seeing improvement in the patient&#8217;s digestive condition, but continuing to needle it would be a huge mistake if this week they&#8217;re having back spasms and can&#8217;t walk.</p>
<h3>Timing in Acupuncture</h3>
<p>The image of a falcon crashing into its prey from a steep dive at a hundred miles per hour is an accurate description of how effective doing the exact right thing at the exact right time is. However if we imagine the situation from the reverse angle, we can imagine the falcon arriving at the wrong time and completely missing its intended target. As the Lingshu says: <strong>&#8220;At the moment the energy arrives, [the physician] does not stray even by a hair; and if he is unaware of it, no results are produced. Therefore it is necessary to discern the arriving and departing movements of energy in order to intervene in time. The mediocre physician ignores this rule; the skilled physician respects it.&#8221;</strong></p>
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<p>This is a good time to clear up a common misconception among acupuncturists about this &#8220;arrival of energy&#8221;, usually referred to as De Qi. The commonly held belief is that De Qi is when the patient experiences a jolt or shocking sensation. This is held to be the sign that things are working and that now the patient should be left to relax with needles in for twenty minutes or so in order to allow the Ying Qi to make a full circuit through the body.</p>
<p>What the text is actually referring to when it talks about the arrival of Qi is the moment of regulation, the specific and clearly perceivable moment when the channel imbalance has been corrected. The higher level of perceiving this moment of regulation relies upon the acupuncturists ability to experience the unseen energy of the patient, a subject I don&#8217;t feel currently qualified to address. However the lower method (one that can be used by everyone fairly easily) is to monitor the state of channel balance via the Renying-Cunkuo pulse method where the very moment of balance can be felt by comparing the strength of the pulse at Renying St-9 and Cunkuo Lu-9 while needling the affected channels.  The timing for this is so delicate and vital that the Lingshu says: <strong>“When needling, if the energy does not arrive, the number of needles is insignificant. If the energy arrives, stop needling.”</strong></p>
<p>This timing is important not only for good results, but also for avoiding bad ones. You can imagine the falcon missing its target so badly that it crashes into the ground face-first. This is a very real possibility in everything we do. Contrary to popular belief, the Lingshu makes very clear many times throughout its text that the patient can be significantly harmed by incorrect acupuncture technique. To wit:</p>
<p><strong>&#8220;Needling presents two risks:</strong></p>
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<li><strong>Not removing the needle once it has reached the affected zone, which may cause the loss of Jing</strong></li>
<li><strong>Removing the needle as soon as it reaches the affected zone, which may cause the Xie Qi to return.</strong></li>
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<p><strong>The loss of Jing exacerbates the illness with nervous exhaustion, and the return of Xie Qi is the origin of abscesses and ulcerations.&#8221;</strong></p>
<p>Our primary concerns for harming the patient in our schooling are things like puncturing the pleura, the peritoneum, or an organ. However, the Lingshu rarely talks about physical damage due to incorrect needling and instead frequently cites examples of energetically-caused damage from doing the wrong thing at the wrong time, including different forms of insanity and even death. Clearly, the acupuncture needle is a powerful tool, one that must be treated with the same respect as a sharp knife or sword.</p>
<p>My point here isn&#8217;t to scare people, but rather to insist that if we are going to use any tool in the pursuit of altering the health of  another person for a fee it&#8217;s our responsibility to be very very good at what we do and to not mistakenly believe that we can get away with following a protocol cookbook. Our practice of a natural and holistic medicine in no way lessens our responsibility to practice safely and effectively to the utmost of our abilities and the ability of our medicine. Acupuncture is capable of a lot, and <a href="http://deepesthealth.com/2007/why-it-is-vital-to-study-the-classical-texts-of-chinese-medicine/" target="_blank">the Neijing repeatedly talks about it </a>in the context of treating very serious illness. <a href="http://deepesthealth.com/2007/acupuncture-is-more-than-just-needles/" target="_blank">However, it only works when you do it correctly.</a></p>
<p>Next week in this column we&#8217;ll discuss timing in herbology. If you want to talk more, please leave a comment or drop by the Deepest Health Community Forum.</p>
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